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looking4fat 72T

6/5/2023 3:00 am

i think that i agree with you. But i can't really be sure what you are saying. IF you are referring to some people's demands for immediate off Alt communication, then i agree. Those who demand such are almost certainly scammers looking to take advantage of desperate or frustrated people.

On the other hand, communicating on this site IS difficult for Standard Members. One must either use points to become a "Number One Fan" or use a semi-public method such as Blog or Group posts. Or even worse the wholly unreliable points eating IM system. So, suggesting an alternative method is understandable.

And, on the gripping hand, if you are asking why sites are unreliable and/or unsatisfactory it is all about the money. Designing a site that IS useful and effective is expensive. So is maintaining one. There is no real motivation for a Business to do so. Remember the owners are capitalists, not altruists.

My "gurl name" is Kate Coxuker. It is who i am and what i do.


Arkangel_Fire 57M
1068 posts
6/5/2023 7:55 am

Everything takes time...


etresoumissexuel 60M
163 posts
6/6/2023 1:02 am

Hello, I agree with you DutchDoll. They are a lot of fake profile on Alt.com.
Best regards


slaveRam4MsM 42M
177 posts
6/6/2023 11:20 am

my exp base here lot of fake profile.. some women looking money purpose.. fake couple profile.. some people like only chat but they are not share correct details...


skorpius18 71M  
1342 posts
6/7/2023 8:51 am

i make it a rule never to give out email or phone number since the request always seem to come after only two or three messages here. i did at one time many years ago, but i would end up getting requests for money, gift cards, music cards, etc. i used to make distance a rule: any one over 20 miles away (and about 30 years younger) is running a money scam. Now it seems the scammers have figured that out and are using phony locations.

Be careful.


Looking4USubLady 100M

6/8/2023 6:27 am

ALT used to be a bit more generous with points, I do not believe chat points should be taken away unless there is a connection, I am also wary about immediate requests for email address, I do feel more comfortable after a few exchanges.

It is mostly scammers here, read the profile intros, locations and ages. Look at some of the photos. WTF! Age listed in 60's with photos looking like 30's. Locations in your local area, once you start communicating, they are on holiday in Africa (Ghans or Nigeria mostly) They come from wealthy families and have some bogus business. Parents are dead and they are orphans. What a load of crap, it always follows the same pattern. Sometimes it is amusing to play along having them believe you actually believe them. Requests for gift cards, money transfers, I even had a request for gas money for a pick up truck! The most fun I had was with a scammer (from the US) who went on an on about a business trip to Scandinavia for over a month, and was robbed and needed money to get home, please wire, will pay you when I get home, omg, how stupid do you think we are)! Ages keep changing, locations change every five minutes, the fake photos keep coming.


tastetester61 62M
1749 posts
6/9/2023 5:08 am

Make yourself a hotmail account that is only used for contacting people from this site. If it all gets too nasty, get another account. NEVER give personal information out to anyone until after you've met and are comfortable. Hotmail can be used as a kind of texting method in the meantime. Just log in on your phone and away you go. Refresh the browser every few minutes while your in a conversation. If they ask why you're so protective, tell them it is to keep them safe. Any protests, ditch them, they are either out to scam you, or they're too dumb.


aldompdx 62M
1073 posts
6/9/2023 5:56 am

Trust is more often misplaced than it is breached. Gain confidence with experience over time.

It is ultimately a significant test of I.Q. and motivation. There are ways to do plenty of things here on ALT for free, if one is sufficiently motivated and smart.

It is very easy to identify a con-artist. See my blog post:
[post 1105422]

Via my handle ALDOMPDX, I communicate on the usual daught calm places.


BigMerv22 53M  
172 posts
6/10/2023 12:24 am

I have no problem with starting off on Alt, or even talking on here as your main form of communicating up to a point. There will come a point where I am going to want to hear your voice and I do not think that makes me an evil person. To me it's a compliment. Who would want someone who never wanted to hear what you had to say out of your own mouth.


bdsmDOMdaddy 61M
4023 posts
6/10/2023 10:49 am

never give out your ph number
only give your email
never give out any personal contact info w o first establishing a good online connection w mutual understanding of what’s expected & warranted
never meet up right away exchange a few emails make sure they’re who they say they are
only exchange ph numbers after few emails if long distance to build a connection bond together
regardless local or long distance always have a first meet in a very public place
always be SSC!


Daniellelv 57T  
10 posts
6/11/2023 7:48 pm

kind of hard to communicate on here when your not gold so I use my email address


BssMan63 60M
94 posts
6/12/2023 2:57 am

while I agree with why cant this site be a good line of communication between Dom's and Sub's at 60 yrs of age Ive seen sooo many things go wrong. Myself personally I never give out phone number till after a blind meet at a restaurant or bar that way it is like a buyer beware situation but you have a picture of each other to go off of.


Jaba2hurtu 68M  
2 posts
6/12/2023 9:48 am

I use a burn number that way if there is a issue I càn just burn it and get a new one. You can find free burn numbers on the internet


Smiff 70M

6/16/2023 7:58 am

I had a woman on this site ask for my ID.me information. ID.me is used by the government and other entities to identify you before giving you access to personal information.
She got quite pissy with me for not trusting her when, in fact, she said we could not proceed with out my information because she did not trust me!
Never give out info! Ever!


Solidman4U 77M  
38 posts
6/18/2023 5:28 pm

Out of the 40 plus women I have been in contact with, OUT TWO did not ask for money in the long run. One had started a relationship and the other lived two states away (I enjoy traveling so the distance was not an issue for me) but she had just gotten a good job and would now relocate - we did become friends and spoke with each other. ALL the rest were scammers looking for money


switchtobottom 60M  
16 posts
6/19/2023 6:59 am

I have yet to meet someone who is not a scammer


Dominatingmilfs 33M
3 posts
6/22/2023 6:31 pm

Phone number if people are real and serious they want to avoid all the bs links and run around


BssMan63 60M
94 posts
6/24/2023 4:43 pm

this is a good place to start if the power that be would get IM to work right


MtRushmore1970 53M
28 posts
6/25/2023 5:05 pm

I'm a recent sign-up (June 2, 2023), and having been a member of a sister site of Alt, I fully expected this place to be filled to the rafters with scammers. I got 24 messages in my inbox within the first 24 hours. Upon upgrading to Gold, I was able to read through the messages and it turned out only one of them was from a legitimate account, the other 23 were scammers, so doing the math that's 4.3% odds on finding a legitimate account.

She officially declared ownership of me on the 18th of June, and we have been chatting offsite for a week now.

We still haven't exchanged phone numbers after a week. That's not to say there's no trust between us. For me, that's respecting Her boundaries. Even just today, I made a crack about I wasn't afraid to share my home address and She said "I know you're real, you silly boy."

She sympathized with the fact that I was demanded "Tribute payment", and she's been here long enough to know the scammer routine.

I hate paying for this site as much as the next person, but running a site this large isn't cheap, and those who ARE paying for the privilege of interacting with others through the message system are keeping it ad-free for everyone else.


bdsmDOMdaddy 61M
4023 posts
6/26/2023 11:22 am

    Quoting  :

IDK to bet the farm on iT?! lol
I know awhile back you posted bout somebody using your pics posing as you!


tylerj13 19M
22 posts
7/2/2023 10:32 pm

Don't see a need to rush, Comfort level is a huge thing in starting out and sometimes that takes a bit of time.


GothEis 55M
3046 posts
8/3/2023 4:15 am

Whether to do that via Alt or not, one thing that makes it difficult to send any message is the technical side regarding Standard Members. It seems that in order for a Standard Member (say, like myself) to reply to a message initiated by a Gold Member (say, yourself), the Gold Member must both "Friend" >and< "Hotlist" the Standard Member, plus (maybe) turn on the profile setting for allowing Standard Members to contact them.

...but maybe Gold Members do all of this and Standard Members still can't reply? I know it's happened to me very very recently -- can't reply to a lovely Gold Member who written a message to me.

So that's why I have an auto-reply asking to be contacted via my blog. (hint~hint!)


MakitHappen4U 54M
1 post
8/5/2023 8:17 pm

It may have once upon a time been a dating sight it’s just not what it is now.


parttimecd3 66M
27 posts
8/18/2023 1:32 pm

most of the time i gave it out. to many hassles


jaykay48 75M
11442 posts
9/9/2023 9:25 am

I had never heard of Alt when I left my marriage 20 years ago, so I went on M*****.calm and over a year's period, met 15 women and married # 14. No one there was a scam, though there were some women who appeared to be crazy so I never went through with meeting them.

I discovered Alt around 2006 when I was living with my future wife and looking for sites that had photos of naked ladies for spare time self-gratification. Eventually, I started blogging and made some friends, though (except for one time where it ALMOST happened,) I never considered cheating with some of the kinky women I was reading about. After that "almost" situation was resolved (through honesty and apologies on my part), my future wife became interested in Alt and started blogging there herself. Over the next 10 years, we made friends with Altoids together and met over 15 people in real-time, though never to have sex with them. I am now 2 weeks short of 75, too old to do anything but look, and have lost contact with almost all of the friends we met. I have to say, the scammers on alt seem to proliferate now, but it wasn't like that 15 years ago, and we have never encountered a fake person. (We traveled to Australia and met a bunch of friends from Alt (all real) and have also met people alt-people on our drives cross country every year.) I guess, just like I'm lucky to have had lots of drugs, sex and rock and roll in the mid to late sixties when abortions were legal, before AIDS and bad drugs , I guess I'm lucky I was active on Alt before the shitheads and the "pro-dommes" took over. Good luck to you in encountering non-shitheads. It's probably harder now than it ever was, on Alt to make a real acquaintance who doesn't want to steal your personal information.



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